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OpenAsking Zimbabweans In SA To Return To "Hell" And Vote Is "Disingenuous" - Chamisa
8 months agoSat, 10 Aug 2024 07:35:37 GMT
In an interview with South African broadcaster NewzroomAfrika, prominent Zimbabwean opposition leader Nelson Chamisa rejected the call for Zimbabweans living in South Africa to return home to vote in the country’s national elections.
Chamisa argued that it is disingenuous to make such a request, given the deeply flawed nature of Zimbabwe’s electoral process.
He claimed that the results of elections are routinely manipulated in favour of the incumbent government. Said Chamisa:
Just the past year we have had many Zimbabweans leaving the country seeking better and greener pastures, and better opportunities.
To invite people back into hell or to invite them back into this very difficult situation, I think is disingenuous.
We have to correct the settings. Zimbabweans have a role to play in elections, but the elections are actually not proper elections.
So even if Zimbabweans were to come, look at what happened in the past elections, people were in the queues, the ballot papers were not there.
The Zimbabwe Electoral Commission could not produce ballot papers, and it turned out that Mr Mnangagwa’s friend Wicknell Chivayo was actually printing the ballot papers and playing the sabotage.
The election was just a sham. So, to talk of elections and Zimbabweans coming to those elections and participating is a bit of a challenge.
The 46-year-old former Citizens’ Coalition for Change (CCC) leader criticized neighbouring countries, particularly South Africa, for failing to exert pressure on Zimbabwe’s ZANU PF-led government to implement democratic reforms. Said Chamisa:
The key thing is for the South African government to help Zimbabweans help themselves. They do so by not expressing solidarity with the dictatorship.
They do so by helping Zimbabweans have proper processes, and proper elections and resolve their politics.
Right now, we have over 100 political activists who are incarcerated. There is no solidarity from the countries that are supposed to help us.
Chamisa’s criticism follows recent comments made by South African opposition leader Julius Malema, who called for Zimbabweans living in South Africa to return home during elections and vote ZANU PF out of power.
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Imhenyu · 8 months ago
Gentleman and Ladies hakuna ishe or president anokwanisa kutsiura hunhu weumwe wake bcz iyewo anetwake kumusha kwake,ndeipi nyika isina opposition party amwe anozi far leftists kune dzimwe nyika,so kana zvikomo zvichipana mhute do you expect kt Sadc leaders dzinotswanya this government NO,vese kwawo havatodiviwo neamwe anhu saka mukavazwa vachipa zvimacomment vanenge vachitoziva pekugumira,inga isu ukadeedzwa kwasahwira wako nemukadzi wake kt baChokudano ahura munongofadza madam wake mave kwenyu motoseka zvenyu muchironga new strategy yekt umwe wako asabatwe futi wani,siyai vakada politics vaite ndizvo zvawo Sadc leaders havatonge chiro mune chero ipi nyika itaika chibhanyamulenge muone kt haitumiri army yayo ere kokumamisai
Imhenyu · 8 months ago
Maths dzinondinetsa anhuwoye,toti pakuvhota pane discord yekt one can vote for zanupf Mp ovhota CCC for president or vice versa then I don't know how much more pipo anoita kt maMps ezanupf awande kupfuura eCCC, and Chamisa oti maMps ake akahwinha akahwinha akadyiwa akadyiwa,he accepts that but kuside kwake anoti ED akamukunda,so comparing number yemaMps before recalls CCC yaive yakarohwa his maths dzakamuudza sei kt anhu akavhotera Zanupf for Mps vese vakavhotera iye for president,and Chamisa ngaandipindurewo kt kana achiziva maths kudaro and if vote yako munhu iri secret yako anoziva ere kt mukadzi wake akavhotera papi for president
Cargo · 8 months ago
why vanhu vezanupf panotaura chamisa munongomublammer muchimutuka pakataurwa point yekuti munyika hamuna zvipatara zvirikubatsira varwere hamubudikire pachena hapana comment yatinoona munongocriticiser vamwe chete hamuvaki imi shandisai pfungwa mhani tese tinebasa rekugadzira nekuvaka nyika it shows kut chamisa wacho anotorema murume uya mungabata vamwe vese bt iye munomunyenyeredza wani iyezvino sikasika namadzibaba veshanduko kkkk look at yu apa chaatadza hapana ko movhundukeiko kkkkkk madhanda heads aya so
🏃♀️ Chi baby Che Zanu 🌊 · 8 months ago
Chamisa itsuro yemubhuku isingamhanye😂😂😂😂😂😂
ED · 8 months ago
be che rine siki nezvindakwenya
ygt · 8 months ago
haha 🤣
Dhima · 8 months ago
"hell"
theLastAntKing · 8 months ago
generation yese iyi yema cdes yauraya nyika, vakabva kuhondo vari traumatised movatitongai futi honhai pazvasvika.
Then generation inevanopembedza ma cdes especially inoenda ku school of ideology should not be near leadership hapana chozikanwa.
Zimbabwe inoda president anonzi Mr. kwete cde.
Iwe Chamisa · 8 months ago
So how does running off to SA and other countries solve the problem?
· 8 months ago
It's very clear from the vitriol coming from the ZANU piyefu Peanut Gallery that the mere mention of Chamisa sends their blood boiling.
Yaaas, ndabvuma, Nero anorema!
Anonymous · 8 months ago
Kubva kare muchingodaro, zvikazodini
the eastern monster👽
· 8 months ago
Chamisa the future President
shadows · 8 months ago
chamisa uri dhotii iwe. wakazvitadza izvi. nyarara wajaira kunyeengwa nekumanyowa. chupet
1234 · 8 months ago
shadow of death..thinks thru the back hole...too bad for a foward thinking Zimbabwean
Bhobhojani · 8 months ago
Chamisa nyarara iwe m.a.c.h.e.n.d.e ako unofunga ungatonga zimbabwe uri wega here
Mai T · 8 months ago
m**** mukuwasha imi Zimbabwe inoshamisira chii yananga kumawere iyi. Kune vatungamiri vaiyera vakanhoisiya wani
1234 · 8 months ago
bhobhojani rakaramba rakasunga even majority yatsigira Nero...kuita kwaro bhobhojani kunyangwe rikasunga zvakaipa rinofira muzvakaipa...vazukuru vebhobhojani vachazotaura n****ondo kuti sekuru bhobhojani vangevasingafungi..vaisungiswa nepaizosunga nesuo vana nevazukuru...too bad
starcon · 8 months ago
vakawa ava kuterana nave kupedza nguva
unru!ÿ · 8 months ago
chamisa hapana nezvemunhu imbw,a ikungodawo food
Anonymous · 8 months ago
But he has a point the electoral process is too flawed I also travelled back home to vote at Braeside netteleton ma ballots akazouya na 9Pm some pole were already on their way back vasina kuvhota the last election was really a shame.BoB was smarter
👀👀 · 8 months ago
ini ndakavhotera pama shops pa H pakatarisana nepamaposori,many pipo didn't cast their votes,isu takatorarapo,since paive pedyo nepamba but vanhu vamwe vakaramwa vakaenda,vamwe vaiti anzwa nzara akaenda haadzoki,vamwe vaishaiwa mazita avo mu voters role,so he has a point,this time l will not go and vote coz zvakangofanana
Chicken 🐔 · 8 months ago
nobody cries because you didn't vote.
Tsemulaz · 8 months ago
Uyu mfana uyuwosoo, he's always talking of problems and no solutions brought foward.
👀👀 · 8 months ago
u are just not hearing his footsteps bt hez not silent,zuva ramuchaona Zim ichimuka yakapendwa Blue ndoopamuchaona kt he was making his moves,can't you c kuvhunduka kurikuota varikumusoro
ygt · 8 months ago
he can't fix Zimbabwe alone that's why we have to do that
S.A.S Zw · 8 months ago
uyu anoshaisa mipurwa hopea
Z · 8 months ago
KUPERA KWEDOVO SERISAKAMBODYIWA NYAMA. BYE BYE CHAMISA, CHITIMA CHEKUTONGA HACHIMIRI HUYE HACHIFI CHAKAMISWA NEWE. SHUMBA, MURAMBWI VE NYANINGWE VAKAVHARA MUKOVA WEHURUKURO NEWE. PAVE NA TSHABANGU PAWAIVERI, SAKA HUKURAI HENYU HAMURAMBIDZWI, NDIZVO ZVINOITA ZVIPOPI, ASI HAZVIRUMI. ZVIPOPI TINOZVIZIVA NERUZHA, HUKURAYI STEREKI ASI MENO HAMUNA.
wydad · 8 months ago
kutonhodzwa kwachauruka ....
SAKA UCHAITA SEI
Anonymous · 8 months ago
So how are you going to correct the setting nhai iwe Chamisa iwe uri kuma terrasses uye wangovewo munhuwo zvake seni? Saka uchaita sei manje. Hakusi kwangove kungo ukura kwawave kuita here because hapana achateerera zvaunotaura semunhu asina paakabatira.
politicia · 8 months ago
chigara pasi iwe Chamisa wakakonewa zvepolitic pamh*ta pako
Anonymous · 8 months ago
Chienda kumasowe unoshandira varwere
😭😭😭 · 8 months ago
Uyu anotoda kushandirwa, murwere wepfungwa
Mudhibhisi · 8 months ago
Kungava kunyeperana kuri pachena kuti nyika ino inogadziriswa nemaerekisheni kananhaurirano. Hurumende yeZANU yakatotora matanho akasiyanasiya Ayo achaita kuti hutongi hwayo hwehusveta Simba nehudzvinyiriri huchavapo kwenguva yakati rebei.
Chatovapo ndechekuisa misoro pamwe kuti tizvisunungure senyika kubva kumhondi, humbavha, chizivano,husveta simba,humbimbindoga hweZanu.Zvinoda kuzvipira kukuru, kwete humbwende . Tikasazvipira tichangosvika muguva tichinyatsotsanangura huipi hweZanu asi ipopasina chatiri kuita kuibvisa.Hurumende isinga tevedzeri mitemo yenyika haigoni kubvisiwa zviri pamutemo.
Gangarahwe
· 8 months ago
Tungamirai Changamire, ini hangu kufema ndokufarira
unru!ÿ · 8 months ago
kana iwe chaiye ukaita president nhasi kudya ndiko kwaunenge uchitokudza and corruption hauzoireg zvinhu zvagara zviri natural pamunhu mutema wese wankuda
Ediots · 8 months ago
Chamisa iStarlink it will happen regardless of Zanu-PF hate for it. ED will succumb
S.A.S Zw · 8 months ago
yesaya chibaba chiya
Antman · 8 months ago
Ever since he retired and gave up on something he created on his own I no longer take this man serious thetecare high chances he is one of the highly paid ZANU PF operatives he seem to always come out when people are taking a step against any ills from ruling Party. Just think of anytime when Zimbabweans planned to march for their amd see who advised them otherwise. If he is genuine he should man up like Hopewell and Mahere those two can stamd their ground. Especially Hopewell has guts or ten Chamisa's to an extent thst of he steps in Zim government will do anything to make him disappear
Mabhlanyo · 8 months ago
Dynamos FC 4-0 Simba Bhora FC
drc · 8 months ago
gore ripi zviya
🏃♀️ Chi baby Che Zanu 🌊 · 8 months ago
Party yake ye blue yav3 ne constitution here?
Antman · 8 months ago
I doubt if there is anything Iike Blue movement its just Mr O Siziba and Mr P Mkhwananzi initiative
👀👀 · 8 months ago
iriko ufunge ,ask yourself why Chiitown yakaitwa sona sona,if given a small chance musi wa 17,you will see,ah kuno takato gadhwa izvozvi ,ndiri mumba but ndirikutonzwa kt panze pane vanhu,mnangagwa arikuziva kut yaako not only in Chiitown
. · 8 months ago
Both of you- Watch This Space
Cyclone Blue loading....
Corruptmore Looto · 8 months ago
The One and Only Beloved Leader in Zim. THE REAL PEOPLE'S CHOICE
jonso · 8 months ago
@ advocate chemistry is right he can't go about campaigning for xenophobia.
jonso · 8 months ago
chamisa
Pastor · 8 months ago
Zanu Pf demons get very agitated whenever Nero opens his mouth. Carry on manifesting your way to hell
coni · 8 months ago
Chamisa the chosen one kwete zvemakarwe izvo
Private Investigator · 8 months ago
Let's get our facts right.Chamisa is NOT a leader in Zimbabwe. At one time he was the leader of a Zanu PF Lite outfit called CCC (Chinhu Changu Chaora) before he resigned. Parizvino he is just an ordinary Zanu PF card carrying member
NDATENDA
the eastern monster👽
· 8 months ago
don't mislead ppl , Chamisa talks the truth that's a true leader.
. · 8 months ago
Point of correction Mr. Private - CCC (the Chinhu Changu Chaora version) became ZANU Lite when Mudenda, Captured Courts and ZANU junta anointed Sengezo as CCC.
stephen chitaka · 8 months ago
are you in hell yourself where do you stay do stay in the ghetto you are living large through our misery you have since stopped caring about the poor you just enjoy to talk bad about your country and cash in on donor funds if you are seriously fighting for our cause go and dialogue with the country's leaders and convince them to make things right for the good of every citizen not the selected few
. · 8 months ago
Wake from your dream ekse
Mhesvamikono · 8 months ago
Chamisa kawonda vakomana. Kana bvudzi harichabuda kkkkk
Chicken 🐔 · 8 months ago
Signs of loss of weight:
1. long neck
2. depression between collarbone and shoulder blade
3. depression on chicks
4. nose appears bigger
5. shoulders of the jacket hang upwards ang loose.
Arutodawo kudya
ClD Admire kuyeri · 8 months ago
Nelson Chamisa Chete chete
🧐 🤔 🤨 🙄 · 8 months ago
I've always said this and I continue saying it, if tripple CCC party was genuine apart from strategic ambiguity apart from structureless, amid those recalls, there was no need surrender voting, even the candidates picked by Tshabangu, they should have still voted enmasse for Tshabangu candidate still in that way you would have remained opposition, and maintained your seats but njere dzakaita shoma as the ambigual structures reversed to the ruling party's favour, Apa manje zvichibatsirei kurira uri holed in SA, apa, you are now partiless and basically hopeless, that vibrancy is shone now
Gangarahwe
· 8 months ago
Here I was, thinking that as a politician you need as many numbers as possible, anything to boost your chances of securing office BUT this guy says he doesn't need numbers he needs advocacy and diplomacy to be installed into office. Which begs the question; is Chamisa really serious about being the next President of Zimbabwe or he just enjoys the limelight and the money coming with it??
apes · 8 months ago
chero makavhota muri15million muzimbabwe maelections anongo rigwa panoda mareforms
Imhenyu · 8 months ago
Ko y chamisa achingotaura zvemaelectoral reforms after elections,and y achipinda murace remaelections paine bad electoral systems,say akahwinha iye thru those electoral systems dziripo is he going to change them for later elections,Akomanaka this is politics,iri ndiro bere rakapfeka dehwe rehwai rayakadya
🧐 🤔 🤨 🙄 · 8 months ago
Ambiguous brains, hana positive mind set up, you see Tshabangu did not throw in the towel after losing the seats he recalled, he actually negotiated his opposition to become more famous tolerated and respectable kwete zve bubble gum ino svipwa yapera muto
Corruptmore Looto · 8 months ago
He is right, do you actually think Zanu will accept defeat, come on grow up man. They know all the bad things they did will come back to haunt them if they vacate office so they will just rather dig in and sit tight
ñm · 8 months ago
if you say zanu will not accept defeat ,then why do you waste your time going to vote? just sit at home like those who are in the diaspora.
The truth is numbers , overwhelming numbers really matter in any election. Chamisa is talking nonsense ,he should actually be encouraging every process that builds numbers.
Corruptmore Looto · 8 months ago
Chero vanhu vese muZim vakati Chamisa, Zanu inongoti yahwina chete. As for voting kutongoitawo kuti titore maCouncil plus parliament otherwise Presidential without reforms forget it
ñm · 8 months ago
ko game rekusa isa mapolling agents pama polling stations ese ,experiments such as strategic ambiguity. how do you see that ,hakusi kuzviitisa here.
electoral reforms yes to that,but also introspection by these opposition people is required. zvimwe zvinhu zvoda kurongeka pachenyu
Corruptmore Looto · 8 months ago
Yes l agree with you they need to do more because they have known how Zanu operates since the turn of the millennium but they keep getting duped come election time. As for the polling agents, they claim that Zanu threatens them or bribes on the voting day whether that's true or not is debatable but it doesn't sound far-fetched considering how remote some of those areas are, so if someone where to threaten you, you wouldn't stick around. I also noticed that the turnout was around 68%, we could have used that remainder because most of those wouldn't have voted for the incumbent. So yeah the numbers can help but we also need other inventive measures from our leaders because solely relying on votes is suicidal, they should be planning ahead during this time not to wait for 2028 and then cry foul
· 8 months ago
Chamisa got numbers.
2.4 million voters.
Corruptmore Looto · 8 months ago
PaStrategic ambiguity was controversial because he only did that so as to avoid being duped by state infiltrators in the party but ironically the regime then used it to their advantage. So the issue of solving the infiltrators problem is very difficult he thought he now had the answer but 😔😔. I guess now the sellouts are now known bcs of that episode but I wouldn't bank on it as the regime might have easily let the others remain undetected or just plant new ones in the too be formed party. So yeah being in opposition is very challenging because you are fighting someone with a lot of resources who doesn't exactly play by the rules so I think we should cut these guys some slack
Imhenyu · 8 months ago
Guys let's just be realistic here, chamisa anoti iye ega ndiye anenge abirirwa,maMps ake anoti akundwa or ahwina so then say pakuvhota pane discord yekt one can vote for zanupf Mp,ovhota CCC for president,or vice versa,then by counting numbers dzenaMps chamisa's party inenge ine so less Mps,do you think kt anhu ese akavhotera zanupf Mps akavhotera chamisa for president,hell NO,uyu arikudyiwa guys,kana muchiti vanhu vese vakamuvhotera for President iye wacho kana vote yako iri secret does he know kt mukadzi wake akavhotera papi
unru!ÿ · 8 months ago
chamisa idoormat totsika tichipinda mumba
Chixy · 8 months ago
Zanu must go.
justice McMillan · 8 months ago
wakadyiwa dictator nyarara. it's a game of numbers per counting done in the eyes of your agents. Check your v11s. and switch off
Shava · 8 months ago
He wants to lose so he can continue stealing donor funds and after all he's the one making Zimbabwe Hell
Politicia · 8 months ago
true udzai munhu chokwadi
S.A.S Zw · 8 months ago
HIS EXCELLENCY PRESIDENT ADVOCATE NERO🥇
Anonymous · 8 months ago
Nero muhombe kuparadza MDC here vakomana, upazazve ccc kuisiyira Tshabangu. Unogona basa Bibi should hire you to destroy HAMAS & Hezbollah.
