Mwonzora Says The Recalling Of CCC MPs Highlight CCC's Lack Of Proper Corporate Governance
1 year agoWed, 25 Oct 2023 11:10:55 GMT
Douglas Mwonzora, the leader of the MDC-T, has said the recent recalling of Citizens Coalition for Change (CCC) Members of Parliament and Councillors by Sengezo Tshabangu highlights the lack of proper corporate governance within the main opposition party.
Mwonzora sees Tshabangu’s actions as a signal for the Nelson Chamisa-led party to establish better organisational structures. He told CITE:
It is very clear that there is an absence of corporate governance within the party. I am aware that Tshabangu signed for other candidates in this election and people cannot say that they don’t know him.
What Tshabangu is saying there is that let’s go back to corporate governance, let’s go back to a party with structures, with officials and not a party which is one man band, that is the logic not that there is something legal about it.
Mwonzora stated that the Citizens Coalition for Change (CCC) did not submit its constitution to parliament, making it challenging for the Speaker of Parliament, Jacob Mudenda, to determine who speaks on behalf of the party. Mwonzora clarified that the Speaker cannot judge whether Tshabangu has the authority to correspond with him without proper documentation. He also defended Mudenda, stating that the Speaker does not have the authority to interfere in political party matters. He added:
The law is very clear and apparently this law was drafted in Bulawayo, actually in the Rainbow Hotel 5th floor and the people who drafted it were myself, Jacob Mudenda, Paul Mangwana, the late Magaisa, Edward Mukosi and some lawyer from Bulawayo, Josphat Tshuma, we drafted it and we removed the powers from the speaker to determine things that come from political parties.
What must happen is that recalls must be discussed at a political level and when they come to parliament, the parliament has absolutely no discretion. So, I can’t tell you whether Tshabangu has authority, but the most important thing is that there must be evidence that he has no authority and that evidence comes from a constitution.
Mwonzora claimed that Chamisa’s letter to the Speaker of Parliament was an afterthought, implying that it was a late response to the recalls initiated by Tshabangu. He stated that Tshabangu’s actions of recalling individuals from Parliament gave him an advantage because he acted first in the matter.
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Anonymous · 1 year ago
Dhangi Visa chitanda muziso rako vanouya kuna Nero usanetseke nezwe ku next door
Coxswain · 1 year ago
had a dream where the spectre of violence muted perpetrated by the Opposition may cause dispondency and political instability in the medium to long term.
I saw the powers that be proclaim a state of emergency (to help manage the intransigency)
I saw the "masses" demand a term extension for our Dear & Wise Leader or his Eminent Son beyond 2030.
I saw SADC realize how free & fair Zim elections were
then I woke up & realized I was dreaming!
Must be cause I went to sleep on a hungry belly..
silly me!
@ Observer · 1 year ago
I agree with Mwonzora's notion on the absence or lack of corporate governance being inherent in the Tshabangu fiasco.
Nevertheless , I wish to extend the fallacy misgovernance to the Speaker of Parliament, ZEC and HE with regards to the Tshabangu debacle.
Something is wrong here , like it or not .
Decisions made by the three aim at disintegrating that which the people had achieved democratically.
Power grabbing seems to be the sole objective behind those at odds with Chamisa in their quest for a 2/3 majority.
by hook or crook.
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Munzira ndimi musikurara hema jealous siyayi chamisa itayi zwenyu
hr · 1 year ago
let's use our real names iwe hausi bush lawyer
Dhara · 1 year ago
U destroyed mdc tinyararire uko
Chawabvunza · 1 year ago
Dear citizens hate him or love him advocate Mwonzora has stated a true fact. We have been blinded by our hate for the mighty Zanu PF that we followed a dictator who is clueless and absolutely useless when it comes to defending the party and it's representatives. No party r organisation can run without structures what Advocate Tshabangu is doing is bringing sanity to the CCC.
This is my story and I'm sticking to it.
The Bush Lawyer4CCC
. · 1 year ago
You talk nonsense ewe
:::: · 1 year ago
This doesn't snt sound the real Bush Lawyer. Imposter kunge Chabangu ndiye anyora izvi.
Dhara · 1 year ago
Imposter not bush lawyer for ccc
Da Truth · 1 year ago
The problem with Zimbos is ma facts iwayo ekungo taura with zero action ndoakonzera kuti tisvike patiri wataura chokwadii chacho and what kungo wawata no action Zim need action , action not facts we talk the walk but we don't walk the talk Tino taurisa pamwe kudzidza sitereki chirungu ma jawbreakers in the world tiri number 1 .We are gud at talking and zero action .Wake up iwe neni toita kwete kuuwawata blubbering we are best .
Zingizi Chabangu · 1 year ago
@Da Truth. Titungamirirewo iwe zvausingatye une sction. CCC yakarambidzwa kuita peaceful demo kuBilawayo. Iwe wakaita action ipi? Kutaura itori form of action wangu.
Da Truth · 1 year ago
Oooooo action from me is coming wondivhunza futi ndakasiya kungo wawata hatisviki facts never changed political situation .Verenga history pose pakaita change chii chaitika ????
Ndini · 1 year ago
reply to most popular
if Dzodora is zvebrain ye huku that's why he could even vote for himself he even recalled him self
most popular · 1 year ago
the problem we have in this country is people who don't want facts.
Doug agara zvake anenge achitaura zvne brain
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Like him or hate him, Mwonzora nailed it. If Chamisa does not take heed of what Tshabangu is saying, then I am sorry, that will be the end of Chamisa.
@Anonymous · 1 year ago
I don't agree with you here mupfana uyu kuti angangopera so easy a big nooooo. Uyu ane chaunga
Hippo The GS · 1 year ago
Politically you failed zvachose but apa wataura zvinobatika Doug boy.Chisiyaii POLAD
HiLLBiLLiES ZiMbaBwE · 1 year ago
SPEAKER haana kuratidza kuva munhu ari intergrity, professional, principally, honestly nekutambira tsamba yaTshabangu or Chamisa nekuti party iyi haina mastructures or constitution, speaker aifanira reject letter yecalling because in terms of law he is POWERLESS unless kana zvakabva through ZANUPF Politburo sezvo iye speaker ari ZANUPF secretary of legal affairs
@billyvwcentre · 1 year ago
chienda wonovadzorera iwe uri professional zvakadovharana izvo we are waiting for other recalls kusvika mati tasa
Anonymous · 1 year ago
It shows how immature some people are in their thinking .How can you enjoy the suffering of your loved ones by supporting a government that hasn't done any development in the 43 years
Stubborn · 1 year ago
So ZANUpf pf is very weak to the extent of being beaten up by a 1 man band led party 😂😂😂😂
These useless dying candidates and some of them are still collapsing all over the rallies while still clinging onto Power 😠
ZANUpf comrades we are waiting eagerly for your natural deaths. The death of a ZANUpf elite I celebrate it with drinking Hennessy and Redwine for my wife..
Die slow suckers
. · 1 year ago
I will celebrate too. The sooner these cowards die off the better it will be for Zimbabwe and the future.
Boss Boss · 1 year ago
🐃 I would rather read zve bhoosvo than this nonsense
lolo · 1 year ago
kkk pic iroo ummm tsvangisto akanga atoparadzwa...kana hu chematama hwanga hwapera bt kuti isinhi raEriza or ndiRobby
😲😲😲 · 1 year ago
Vamwe vanoti akacheturwa nemukomana aida chigaro chehushe. Mukomana ndiye oga aitenderwa kusvika kumba kwaSave uye aive nechiramu nedzvukumukunde Eriza. Asi Kemothrapy inowondesa hayo.
doug · 1 year ago
He took the money and assets, including Harvest House, and not the supporters. With all that money and assets, he did not even get anything from the elections. The most powerful meetings on his side now are at POLAD. Three types of Zimbabwean politics, first has no people but all the money and assets, second has all the money, even for dishing out, has all assets required and not required, and the third , has no money, no assets but followers.
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ · 1 year ago
no assets but followers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
small boy ne hwai dzake.
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Supporters do not mean anything in politics if they are not converted into acquisition of political power. A leader who has millions of supporters but does not allow even one of them to use their brain and think on behalf of everyone is just as good as Dougie asina vanhu.
@anonymous · 1 year ago
When you win a game by cheating you cannot be proud of the win.
In a free and fair election CCC would win resoundly. It's unfortunate that you bootlickers are a dishonest and disgraceful lot. Zimbabweans are suffering because of you.
@anonymous · 1 year ago
keep on dreaming.
🌹 NETSAI 🌹 · 1 year ago
no comment
HIE · 1 year ago
now the equation is clear...faces change but there mission to destroy is clear...
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Well said Dougie, the fact that you failed politically does not take away your legal prowess. you said the delimitation was wrong, they called you names, you said the nomination process was wrong, again they called you names. however soon after voting, those who called you names were celebrating Nevers Mumba`s report citing the same things that you had registered with the courts. I wonder why Africans are so affinitive with populists without ideas. The problems that haunt the main opposition today is clearly poor corporate governance in the party.
WORZELL GUMMIDGE · 1 year ago
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@Anonymous. You nailed it right at the centre of the fontanelle. Panhongonya. Pachipande chaipo. The majory of Opposition supporters have become brainless zombies or mesmerized victims of propaganda from individuals with a Messianic Complex. We see it in churches everyday. Blind hero worshippers falling prey to conman-pastors & rapist-prophets who pervet the true gospel for personal gain. Democratic principles are perverted by infusing bible verses for one man's personal power. Popular individuals can get away with murder nowadays.
Mwonzora is called a traitor. Thokozani Khupe was called a traitor not long ago. But today Chamisa is working with Thokozani Khupe in the CCC. The disputes in the opposition have akways been about Chamisa not respecting the party constitution. Nowadays Chamisa no longer wants a party constitution altogether. He does not want to be bound by a constitution or institutional rules. He wants to be the institution.
In 2014, at the MDC-T Congress, Chamisa was defeated by Mwonzora. Chamisa never wanted elections again after that bad experience. The 2019 MDC Alliance Congress held in Gweru was massively rigged because the original MDC-T Structures were illegally replaced by non members who were aligned to Chamisa. Even before that, Chamisa had been illegally and unconstitutionally impossed by Tsvagirai as co-deputy President. An elective congress was not held in 2018 in the MDC-T to elect a party president & candidate for the 2018 elections. Chamisa simply impossed himself at Tsvangirai's funeral in Humanikwa Village in Buhera in February 2018. All these illegal and unconstitutional habits led to the court dispute that saw Thokozani Khupe retaking the MDC-T party & headquarters. Mwonzora, Komichi & Mudzuri continued to work with Chamisa under the MDC Alliance. They left Chamisa when Thokozani khupe won the legal dispute through her proxies.
Sadly, many opposition supporters have very short term memories. They have forgotten the history of unconstitutional illegalities perpetrated by Mukomana. Mwonzoro did a great job as co-chair of the COPAC.
Anonymous · 1 year ago
I could not have said it better than this. thank you Worzell
CCC supporter · 1 year ago
Mwonzora is a useless Ideeeeot a has been relegated to the political dustbin. Chamisa is very popular which is painful to his detractors.
maparamuro · 1 year ago
@Gummige and @ Anonymous can you be generous enough to donate just a single cell of your brains with compatriots who follow Chamisa blindly please. The cells will replicate and develop into better brains for these people.
Otherwise this beautiful country is doomed
wwe · 1 year ago
Nzondora yedhadha which governance you have ,a failed Nzondora
Tintin · 1 year ago
...your twin political brother...
WORZELL GUMMIDGE · 1 year ago
Mwonzora is very unpopular, but he is telling the truth. A party Constitution and clear Organisational hierachy is where a juristic / corporate entity derives its power. One man's popularity is not enough to insulate an organisation from legal disputes that can be settled by a Constitution. In the law courts, evidence in the form of documents such as a Constitution, minutes of meetings & reports of Elective events are essential in settling disputes of fact based on the papers.
The COPAC Constitution making Committee was party-driven & not people-driven. That's why Madhuku had his Take Charge Campaign at the time. Citizens in their ignorence and simplicity, were only consulted to rubber stamp decisions that had already been adopted by the conniving poor-litical parties which had already agreed on the Kariba Daft Constitution.
Morgan Tsvangirai, in 2004-5, sat with his MDC-T National Council and recalled Munyaradzi Gwisai for supporting the land reform programme & denouncing the MDC-T after receiving a farm. In 2014, Tsvangirai again sat with his NC & used the recall clause to chuck out corrupt MDC-T Councillors from Chitungwiza & Harare who were parcelling out council land for personal gain. At least Tsvangirai sat down with his structures before the recalls.
The recall clause was also in the Lancaster House Constitution before the 2013 COPAC Constitution. Recalls are a necessary evil, but they can be abused to settle personal disputes. Perhaps the power of recall should be given to the electorate - specifically the members of a political party in a specific constituency or ward where the MP or Councillor is no longer wanted. But I foresse political parties will refuse because, once they are voted into power - they stop giving a sheet about what the voters want or think.
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Very true, vakapusa vari kushandiswa.
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Voter · 1 year ago
The recalls show nothing but disrespect for the voters.
The recalls should have been done before the election.
Trying to justify the recalls is disgraceful and dishonest.
